New Beta - v2.91

[Krein]

Some new stuff:

2.91 - [7/25/06]

Added speed shading for tracks (preferences->fonts/colors)
Added speed limit - throw out bogus speeds (prefs->units)
Added slideshow of photos during track playback (photofusion)
Added Clear button to photofusion dialog
Added "Download DEM" to climbing analysis (no more forced downloads)

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I've been having fun with the slideshow / photofusion feature in partcular.  Kinda cool to watch the replay of a ride and have the photos pop up at the spot you took them.  It works better if you have a good image display program like ACDSee.  And even better if you have two monitors so you can view the photos in full size.

Also, I've been able to get some cool visuals of recent rides here in Golden, CO using the new speed shading:




Check it out and please post here with any ideas or problems!

Thanks.

[BobL]

Hmmm I downloaded 2.91 unzipped and OKed replacing the original files exe and ocx.  And clicking either shortcuts or the program file it starts to show the small rectangular startup picture and then it is gone.  Nothing.  No error messages Nothing.  It is installed on H: drive and the 2.85 was working.  Seems like I had trouble with it and had to install 2.85 2X  But I may be wrong.  Anyway this one is not working at all for me.  Windows task manager has no topofusion listed.  Any help?

Bob

[tdcarter]

Sorry Bob, but 2.91 is working for me, really like the speed shading feature. I need to start playiung more with PhotoFusion.

But for your in-operative program, to start, check in your TopoFusion program directory for the log file. TopoFusion.log

Open with any text program and see what ya got. Any error messages or where is it hanging?

Not sure how much more I would be able to help ya, but it's a start...

TC

[Krein]

Quote (BobL @ July 25 2006,6:57)

Hmmm I downloaded 2.91 unzipped and OKed replacing the original files exe and ocx.  And clicking either shortcuts or the program file it starts to show the small rectangular startup picture and then it is gone.  Nothing.  No error messages Nothing.  It is installed on H: drive and the 2.85 was working.  Seems like I had trouble with it and had to install 2.85 2X  But I may be wrong.  Anyway this one is not working at all for me.  Windows task manager has no topofusion listed.  Any help? Bob

Hi Bob,

I'd try downloading 2.91 again in case it got corrupted somehow.

Failing that, look at (or post) your TopoFusion.log file, as Thomas suggested.

It might give us some clue where it is dying.  Next idea is to move your TopoFusion.ini file somewhere else (or delete it, though you'd lose settings).  That should reset all your settings and TF should at least start up.

Let us know how it goes.  Thanks.

[BobL]

Here is my log pasted in.  I hope it is not too long and this is the way to do it

BTW re-downloaded re-installed and the same thing happens  the program starts to come up and says Loading in the bottom corner and then nothing.  But the last two times it has also wiped out the decktop.  Start button and all --(not permanantly but I have to ctrl alt del and then shut down.)

The thing is the previous program was working fine.

TopoFusion 2.91 Log Begin
Windows Major Version: 5
Windows Minor Version: 1
Windows Build Number : 2600
Windows Platform ID  : 2
Windows CSD Version  : Service Pack 2
Initializing Winsock
Initializing DirectDraw
Color Info : BBP = 32
Color Info : Sizes : R=8, G=8, B=8
Color Info : Shifts : R=16, G=8, B=0
DirectDraw : Driver "SiS 650_740" (SiSGRV.dll)
DirectDraw : Total Video Memory : 56049666
DirectDraw : Free Video Memory : 54846050
DirectDraw : Hardware supports blits
DirectDraw : Hardware supports asynchronous blits
DirectDraw : Hardware supports colorfill on blits
DirectDraw : Hardware supports stretchblit
DirectDraw : Hardware supports colorkeying
DirectDraw : Hardware supports source colorkey
Creating Surfaces
BackBuffer: Width=858, Height=427, was created in Video Memory
TileBuffer: Width=1258, Height=827, was created in Video Memory
Creating Resource Tiles....
Creating Sprites
Successfully Created Surfaces
Initializing Memory Pool
Total Physical Memory: 502824960
Physical Memory Free: 79646720
Memory Load: 84 percent
Tile Cache Size = 149
74 surfaces created in (local) video memory
75 surfaces created in system memory
Initializing Threads
Initializing Index File

Caught Exception:
 Function: InitIndexFile
 Exception: Access Violation


--# FV EIP----- RetAddr- FramePtr StackPtr Symbol

  0 .V 100cfd70 100cfc9d 0012d0fc 0012d0e8 fwrite_lk
    Decl: cdecl initIndexFile(void)
    Line: C:\GPSMaster\checkout\GPSMaster\index.cpp(472) +21 bytes
    Mod:  GPSMAS~1[H:\TOPOFU~1\GPSMAS~1.OCX], base: 10000000h
    Sym:  type: CV, file: H:\TOPOFU~1\GPSMAS~1.OCX

  3 .V 10026b65 10010a76 0012f244 0012d0e8 Initialize +1189 bytes    Sig:  ?Initialize@@YAHFPAD0J00J@Z
    Decl: int thiscall CGPSMasterCtrl::m_initialize(short,char const *,char const *,long,char const *,char const *,long)
    Line: C:\GPSMaster\checkout\GPSMaster\GPSMasterCtl.cpp(1706) +33 bytes
    Mod:  GPSMAS~1[H:\TOPOFU~1\GPSMAS~1.OCX], base: 10000000h
    Sym:  type: CV, file: H:\TOPOFU~1\GPSMAS~1.OCX

  5 .V 100fbc1f 100fb22b 0012f378 0012d0e8 AfxDispatchCall@12
    Decl: stdcall COleDispatchImpl::Invoke(long,struct _GUID const &,unsigned long,unsigned short,struct tagDISPPARAMS *,struct tagVARIANT *,struct tagEXCEPINFO *,unsigned int *)
    Line: oledisp1.cpp(1430) +0 bytes
    Mod:  GPSMAS~1[H:\TOPOFU~1\GPSMAS~1.OCX], base: 10000000h
    Sym:  type: CV, file: H:\TOPOFU~1\GPSMAS~1.OCX

  7 .V 660697c8 660d8e24 0012f43c 0012d0e8 BASIC_DISPINTERFACE_GetTICount +17376 bytes    Sig:  BASIC_DISPINTERFACE_GetTICount
    Decl: BASIC_DISPINTERFACE_GetTICount
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

  8 .V 660d8e24 66107986 0012f490 0012d0e8 TipInvokeMethod +950 bytes    Sig:  TipInvokeMethod
    Decl: TipInvokeMethod
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

  9 .V 66107986 66108b7f 0012f4f4 0012d0e8 vbaVarSub
    Decl: vbaLateIdCallLd +26 bytes    Sig:  vbaLateIdCallLd
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 11 .V 0051e62e 66051fb3 0012fa64 0012d0e8
    Mod:  TopoFusion[H:\TopoFusion\TopoFusion.exe], base: 00400000h
    Sym:  type: -nosymbols-, file:

 12 .V 66051fb3 0041f519 0012fa70 0012d0e8 IID_IVbaHost +145091 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 13 .V 0041f519 660522b4 0012fa80 0012d0e8
    Mod:  TopoFusion[H:\TopoFusion\TopoFusion.exe], base: 00400000h
    Sym:  type: -nosymbols-, file:

 14 .V 660522b4 6605271b 0012facc 0012d0e8 IID_IVbaHost +145860 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 15 .V 6605271b 660528e7 0012fba0 0012d0e8 IID_IVbaHost +146987 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 16 .V 660528e7 66032477 0012fbc4 0012d0e8 IID_IVbaHost +147447 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 17 .V 66032477 6603216d 0012fc20 0012d0e8 IID_IVbaHost +15239 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 18 .V 6603216d 660647e1 0012fc40 0012d0e8 IID_IVbaHost +14461 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 19 .V 660647e1 66067124 0012fc94 0012d0e8 EbLibraryUnload +2839 bytes    Sig:  EbLibraryUnload
    Decl: EbLibraryUnload
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 20 .V 66067124 66009f64 0012fd94 0012d0e8 BASIC_DISPINTERFACE_GetTICount +7484 bytes    Sig:  BASIC_DISPINTERFACE_GetTICount
    Decl: BASIC_DISPINTERFACE_GetTICount
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 21 .V 66009f64 66007a5a 0012fed4 0012d0e8 EbLoadRunTime +4454 bytes    Sig:  EbLoadRunTime
    Decl: EbLoadRunTime
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 22 .V 66007a5a 66003959 0012fef8 0012d0e8 BASIC_CLASS_QueryInterface +3786 bytes    Sig:  BASIC_CLASS_QueryInterface
    Decl: BASIC_CLASS_QueryInterface
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 23 .V 66003959 660036d2 0012ff18 0012d0e8 ThunRTMain +989 bytes    Sig:  ThunRTMain
    Decl: ThunRTMain
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 24 .V 660036d2 660035d8 0012ff38 0012d0e8 ThunRTMain +342 bytes    Sig:  ThunRTMain
    Decl: ThunRTMain
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 25 .V 660035d8 004054f6 0012ffb8 0012d0e8 ThunRTMain +92 bytes    Sig:  ThunRTMain
    Decl: ThunRTMain
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 26 .V 004054f6 00000000 0012fff0 0012d0e8
    Mod:  TopoFusion[H:\TopoFusion\TopoFusion.exe], base: 00400000h
    Sym:  type: -nosymbols-, file:

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Thanks
Bob

[Krein]

Bob,

Thanks for posting your log.  I think I've found a long standing bug.  I'm not sure why moving to 2.91 caused it, but nevertheless, please try downloading and installing 2.91 one more time.  This time I think it will not crash.

Something is amiss with the index file, obviously, and the code we had that was supposed to take care of it had a bug itself.  Please let me know if it works or not.

If it doesn't I have a utility that will rebuild your index file based on the map data you have downloaded.

Thanks.  This one has eluded us for some time.

[BobL]

Quote

Bob, Thanks for posting your log.  I think I've found a long standing bug.  I'm not sure why moving to 2.91 caused it, but nevertheless, please try downloading and installing 2.91 one more time.  This time I think it will not crash.

Oppps Still crashed.  I am not sure it has anything to do with 2.91.  I have had previous versions installed on C:  I think it has something to do with the drive.  Maybe not following the drive letter for the index file.  I tried reinstalling everything on c:programs/topofusion and it works fine.

Quote

If it doesn't I have a utility that will rebuild your index file based on the map data you have downloaded.

Do not think I need to but thanks.  I now can get it to work on c drive, I just really do not want it there.  A second observation.  After I installed the trial version on H: and unzipped the Beta I then double clicked on the Topofusion.exe file -- It tried to _install_ a set of programs that I had gotten over a year ago.  MS is wierd.  Also the new version of the program although it does not come up for me on H: did not trash my desktop.  BTW here is the new log ...

TopoFusion 2.91 Log Begin
Windows Major Version: 5
Windows Minor Version: 1
Windows Build Number : 2600
Windows Platform ID  : 2
Windows CSD Version  : Service Pack 2
Initializing Winsock
Initializing DirectDraw
Color Info : BBP = 32
Color Info : Sizes : R=8, G=8, B=8
Color Info : Shifts : R=16, G=8, B=0
DirectDraw : Driver "SiS 650_740" (SiSGRV.dll)
DirectDraw : Total Video Memory : 56049666
DirectDraw : Free Video Memory : 55406690
DirectDraw : Hardware supports blits
DirectDraw : Hardware supports asynchronous blits
DirectDraw : Hardware supports colorfill on blits
DirectDraw : Hardware supports stretchblit
DirectDraw : Hardware supports colorkeying
DirectDraw : Hardware supports source colorkey
Creating Surfaces
BackBuffer: Width=858, Height=427, was created in Video Memory
TileBuffer: Width=1258, Height=827, was created in Video Memory
Creating Resource Tiles....
Creating Sprites
Successfully Created Surfaces
Initializing Memory Pool
Total Physical Memory: 502824960
Physical Memory Free: 171106304
Memory Load: 65 percent
Tile Cache Size = 320
97 surfaces created in (local) video memory
223 surfaces created in system memory
Initializing Threads
Initializing Index File
Sorting Index File.  Number of entries: 14336
Time to sort index file: 0.02 seconds

Caught Exception:
 Function: InitIndexFile
 Exception: Access Violation


--# FV EIP----- RetAddr- FramePtr StackPtr Symbol

  0 .V 023163a8 02326db5 0012f198 0012d128 initIndexFile +824 bytes    Sig:  ?initIndexFile@@YA_NXZ
    Decl: bool cdecl Initialize(short,char *,char *,long,char *,char *,long)
    Line: C:\GPSMaster\checkout\GPSMaster\master.cpp(1339) +5 bytes
    Mod:  GPSMAS~1[H:\TOPOFU~1\GPSMAS~1.OCX], base: 02300000h
    Sym:  type: CV, file: H:\TOPOFU~1\GPSMAS~1.OCX

  2 .V 02310c96 023fc039 0012f290 0012d128 CGPSMasterCtrl::m_initialize +118 bytes    Sig:  ?m_initialize@CGPSMasterCtrl@@IAEFFPBD0J00J@Z
    Decl: protected: short AfxDispatchCall@12 +16 bytes    Sig:  AfxDispatchCall@12
    Line: olecall.cpp(43) +0 bytes
    Mod:  GPSMAS~1[H:\TOPOFU~1\GPSMAS~1.OCX], base: 02300000h
    Sym:  type: CV, file: H:\TOPOFU~1\GPSMAS~1.OCX

  4 .V 023fb645 660697c8 0012f400 0012d128 COleDispatchImpl::Invoke +947 bytes    Sig:  ?Invoke@COleDispatchImpl@@UAGJJABU_GUID@@KGPAUtagDISPPARAMS@@PAUtagVARIANT@@PAUtagEX
CEPINFO@@PAI@Z
    Decl: public: virtual long vbaVarSub +348 bytes    Sig:  vbaVarSub
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

  8 .V 66108b7f 0051e7ae 0012f514 0012d128 vbaLateIdCallLd
    Decl: __vbaLateIdCallLd
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

  9 .V 0051e7ae 66051fb3 0012fa64 0012d128
    Mod:  TopoFusion[H:\TopoFusion\TopoFusion.exe], base: 00400000h
    Sym:  type: -nosymbols-, file:

 10 .V 66051fb3 0041f5a1 0012fa70 0012d128 IID_IVbaHost +145091 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 11 .V 0041f5a1 660522b4 0012fa80 0012d128
    Mod:  TopoFusion[H:\TopoFusion\TopoFusion.exe], base: 00400000h
    Sym:  type: -nosymbols-, file:

 12 .V 660522b4 6605271b 0012facc 0012d128 IID_IVbaHost +145860 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 13 .V 6605271b 660528e7 0012fba0 0012d128 IID_IVbaHost +146987 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 14 .V 660528e7 66032477 0012fbc4 0012d128 IID_IVbaHost +147447 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 15 .V 66032477 6603216d 0012fc20 0012d128 IID_IVbaHost +15239 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 16 .V 6603216d 660647e1 0012fc40 0012d128 IID_IVbaHost +14461 bytes    Sig:  IID_IVbaHost
    Decl: IID_IVbaHost
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 17 .V 660647e1 66067124 0012fc94 0012d128 EbLibraryUnload +2839 bytes    Sig:  EbLibraryUnload
    Decl: EbLibraryUnload
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 18 .V 66067124 66009f64 0012fd94 0012d128 BASIC_DISPINTERFACE_GetTICount +7484 bytes    Sig:  BASIC_DISPINTERFACE_GetTICount
    Decl: BASIC_DISPINTERFACE_GetTICount
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 19 .V 66009f64 66007a5a 0012fed4 0012d128 EbLoadRunTime +4454 bytes    Sig:  EbLoadRunTime
    Decl: EbLoadRunTime
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 20 .V 66007a5a 66003959 0012fef8 0012d128 BASIC_CLASS_QueryInterface +3786 bytes    Sig:  BASIC_CLASS_QueryInterface
    Decl: BASIC_CLASS_QueryInterface
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 21 .V 66003959 660036d2 0012ff18 0012d128 ThunRTMain +989 bytes    Sig:  ThunRTMain
    Decl: ThunRTMain
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 22 .V 660036d2 660035d8 0012ff38 0012d128 ThunRTMain +342 bytes    Sig:  ThunRTMain
    Decl: ThunRTMain
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 23 .V 660035d8 004054f6 0012ffb8 0012d128 ThunRTMain +92 bytes    Sig:  ThunRTMain
    Decl: ThunRTMain
    Mod:  MSVBVM60[C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVBVM60.DLL], base: 66000000h
    Sym:  type: -exported-, file:

 24 .V 004054f6 00000000 0012fff0 0012d128
    Mod:  TopoFusion[H:\TopoFusion\TopoFusion.exe], base: 00400000h
    Sym:  type: -nosymbols-, file:

-------------------------------------------------

[Krein]

Hum, wonder why it still crashed.  In any case, it appears your Mapindex file on C: is trashed.  You should be able to install TF wherever you want as long as you are willing to restart with no maps downloaded/saved.  Just make sure you delete the Mapindex.dat file and any MapsX.dat files.

You can also change the directory to use for map data, so TF can be on one drive and maps on another.

[BobL]

Quote (Krein @ July 28 2006,1:02)

In any case, it appears your Mapindex file on C: is trashed.

There WAS no Mapindex file on C:  There WAS no topofusion.exe on C:  There WAS no Topofusion folder on C:

I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but The program is also no longer reading elevation data from my garmin

I'll check out the non beta
Bob

[Krein]

I guess I don't know what your drive setup is, but presumably there were map files from the previous (non-beta) version that you upgraded at first started having problems with...

In any case, I don't think either of these issues -- index file troubles or elevation data loss are unique to the beta.  I will anxiously await a further report about the elevation data, but that code didn't change since 2.90.

Please let me know.  Also, what GPS unit are you using?

Thanks.

[Larry]

Quote (Krein @ July 17 2006,4:41)

Some new stuff: Check it out and please post here with any ideas or problems! Thanks.

Hi Krein,

The track shading works on my computer; very nice except that the current lowest speed I can set for the limit seems to be 5 mph. I would not want to throw out any gps points that are between say 3 and 5 mph, but the result is that for hiking the shaded track does not give much useful information.

Having the speed limit go down to say 2 mph would give more options - as long as doing so does not change any track data.

You might also consider a low speed limit, below which one is considered stopped, and color coded with say, black. This way you could accentuate minor changes in speed or pace.

Larry

[Krein]

Thanks for the feedback, Larry.

In 2.92 (out just now) I changed the speed limit to go down to 3 mph.  It doesn't throw the points out, it just colors them the maximum (whatever the limit is).  

Great idea about setting the low speed limit.  There's already an implicit lower limit in the calculation of "moving time", but depending on the activity, this value really needs to be changed.  I'll try to get it into the next version.

Thanks.

[Larry]

Quote (Krein @ July 31 2006,7:10)

 There's already an implicit lower limit in the calculation of "moving time", but depending on the activity, this value really needs to be changed. Â

Krein, perhaps ideally the 'speed sufficient to be considered moving' could be set in two different areas; one for the calculations displayed in the track data, which presumably one would not adjust after a value is chosen, and additionally it could be set differently in the track shading dialog.

Say I wanted to get a feeling for my uphill hiking. I could set the lower limit to say 1 mph, and the upper to 2 mph to get the maximum number of shading colors. However this wouldn't work for downhill. Here maybe I might want to change the limits to maybe 1.5 to a max of 3 mph. A runner or bike rider could use other limits to see minor changes in speed in different areas of ride or run.

But no need to change the overall moving time displayed in the track data.

I'm being as clear as mud again I think!  '>

Larry