Beta 4.21 - Land Ownership back!

[ScottMorris]

New beta out with a new server address for the Land Ownership layer that still has all the old data.

TF should rewrite your CustomWMS server entry for "Land Ownership" with the new IP address when you start.  But for reference, here is the info needed:

server: 206.16.47.174
request: wmsconnector/com.esri.wms.Esrimap/BLM_MAP_SURFACE_MGT_AGY?VERSION=1.1.1&SERVICE=WMS&REQUEST=GetMap&SRS=EPSG:4326&LAYERS=BLM+Lands,US+Forest+Service,FWS,DOD,BOR,BIA,National+Parks,BLM+National+Monuments,BLM+Wilderness+Areas,BLM+National+Conservation+Areas,OTHER,STATE,LOCAL&TRANSPARENT=FALSE&FORMAT=image/jpeg

(that last one needs to all be one line).

Beta available in the usual place.  Let us know how it goes!

[sanewcomb]

Hi Scott,

Thanks for looking through the links and quickly updating TF. Like you, I don't think this will last too long but nice to have it for now. The tiles don't take up much disk space so I wonder if TF can provide at least the large scale sets once it goes down, particularly out west where so much of the land is federal.

Ok so now I've downloaded some landowner tiles and went around the map using the Load Maps Tool to replace the new tiles (BLM lands only) by clicking on them.

But when I restart TF it shows the old tiles. Apparently both sets are there because I can click on them again with the tool and the correct tile instantly appears (also appears with downloading option turned off).

So how do I get TF to display the desired tiles by default?

Thanks,

Steve

Added: This is very bizarre. If I use the load map tool to click on tiles to show the desired one (downloading turned off), close the program and reopen without doing anything else, it changes the state (reverting to BLM only tiles) of other tiles that were not clicked and it's different every time. Sort of like wack-a-mole. If TF is only opened and closed there is no change in tile state.

[ScottMorris]

If you replaced the old Land Ownership layer with the new string you'll get a mix of old and new ones.  You can start a fresh tileset by creating a new WMS server and going from there.

Your added comment is very strange though, yes! 

Hmmmm.... clicking the reload maps tool on a tile will only invalidate that exact tile, which may uncover older downloaded tiles in the same position but same tileset.  Interesting.  I'll have to take a look at that, but for now I just recommend starting a new tileset -- the BLM only tiles are a bummer for sure.

[sanewcomb]

If you replaced the old Land Ownership layer with the new string you'll get a mix of old and new ones.  

But I went through and clicked on tiles individually to replace them, so I should just have one set of tiles, right?

You can start a fresh tileset by creating a new WMS server and going from there.

Ok. I thought of that but I didn't think I could use them with the combo feature. I see now that the new WMS does show up in the combo settings. I hope that server stays up. I spent a lot of time getting the whole state (albeit not at the highest res, the highest 2 aren't really needed).

Your added comment is very strange though, yes!  

Hmmmm.... clicking the reload maps tool on a tile will only invalidate that exact tile

Although in this case the invalidated tiles are being brought back to life by exiting the program. It may have something to do with this. I used the batch download function to grab the 0.06 tiles around the state. I then went through all of them and clicked individually on the previous BLM only tiles to download the all lands tiles to make what looked like and I thought was a complete set of all public land ownership 0.06 tiles only.

But when I restarted many of the tiles reverted to BLM only. So I started clicking on them (a second time) and the all land tiles would instantly reappear (downloading not required). But this whole process happened again when exiting and restarting. What's really bizarre is the tiles that revert seem to be picked randomly and are not the same with each restart.

Steve

[sanewcomb]

Scott,

Is there a way to prevent a particular scale within a tile set from displaying?

Detail isn't that important in the land owner tile set and the high res tiles aren't needed. So I'd like to remove the 0.003 scale (and probably the 0.015) so when I zoom into MyTopo-Land Owner combo it keeps the 0.06 set displayed.

I doubt the land owner alternative server will last that long and I don't really want to spend the time/disk space getting tiles that aren't really needed.

Thanks,

Steve

[ScottMorris]

Steve,

There isn't currently a way to disable a particular tileset (not for WMS anyway).  I do think it makes sense for some servers, so it's a good candidate for a new feature.

Your tile reloading issues are still puzzling for sure.  I can't say I have tested mass reloading of tiles since the tool is really more designed for "spot" reloads, but I'm experimenting right now and I think I see what you are describing -- some tiles are getting reloaded, and some are not.  I'll see if I can figure it out, and for now I'd say don't reload any tiles, or just go with a new WMS server / tileset.

Thanks Steve.

[ScottMorris]

Steve,

I spent a while testing this and couldn't figure anything out.  I did a batch download of BLM only tiles for an area, went through and reloaded a bunch of them, and they all seemed to stay with the full Land Ownership.

I'm not sure what to say on this one.  Probably just best to start a new tileset rather than massive reloading of tiles.

Thanks for the quality report / feedback, as always.